BFD1054

Date: 11/10/17
Time: 1425hrs
Location: 205 Liberty St/Campbell St
District: City of Newburgh 
Battalion:
Channel: 
Weather: Cold/Windy 
Units: NFD C4 (IC), C3, E1, E3, T1, E10/T10 (call back), West Point (Truck), Air Guard (Engine), Castle Point (Engine)
Writer: BFD1054
Description: Working Fire 
1425hrs (approx)-OC911 alerting 2nd Alarm companies; West Point (Truck) & Air Guard (Engine) to the scene, Middlehope and Cronomer Valley to stand by Public Safety Building. 
 
1430hrs-Dispatch advising Command that E10 abd T10 have been re-hired, as well as an Assistant Chief.
 
1437hrs-Dispatch looking for a progress report. Command advising all hands working, (2) lines in operation, fire on the 3rd floor and into the cockloft, waiting for mutual aid to arrive with "plenty of work for them."
 
1448hrs-Command advising West Point and Air Guard working, companies checking exposures. 
 
1450hrs-E10 on scene.
 
1453hrs-Dispatch conducting status check. Command advising (1) line in the exposure building, crews still operating the 2nd and 3rd floor of the fire building.
 
1456hrs-West Point relieving T1's crew on the roof.
 
1457hrs-Command advising that the FAST is on scene. 
 
1459hrs-Command requesting Dispatch recall (1) member for Cause and Origin.
 
1505hrs-Command requesting Red Cross.
 
1510hrs-40 minute status check. Command advising interior fire in knocked down, crews working on exterior fire, all 2nd Alarm companies commited, 1st Alarm companies taking a breather.
 
1523hrs-Command placing the fire under control, all hands still working, holding all 1st & 2nd Alarm companies.
 
*All times are approximate 

Date: 11/10/17
Time: 1425hrs
Location: 205 Liberty St/Campbell St
District: City of Newburgh 
Battalion:
Channel: 
Weather: Cold/Windy 
Units: NFD C4 (IC), C3, E1, E3, T1, E10/T10 (call back), West Point (Truck), Air Guard (Engine), Castle Point (Engine)
Writer: BFD1054
Description: Working Fire 
1425hrs (approx)-OC911 alerting 2nd Alarm companies; West Point (Truck) & Air Guard (Engine) to the scene, Middlehope and Cronomer Valley to stand by Public Safety Building. 
 
1430hrs-Dispatch advising Command that E10 abd T10 have been re-hired, as well as an Assistant Chief.
 
1437hrs-Dispatch looking for a progress report. Command advising all hands working, (2) lines in operation, fire on the 3rd floor and into the cockloft, waiting for mutual aid to arrive with "plenty of work for them."
 
1448hrs-Command advising West Point and Air Guard working, companies checking exposures. 
 
1450hrs-E10 on scene.
 
1453hrs-Dispatch conducting status check. Command advising (1) line in the exposure building, crews still operating the 2nd and 3rd floor of the fire building.
 
1456hrs-West Point relieving T1's crew on the roof.
 
1457hrs-Command advising that the FAST is on scene. 
 
1459hrs-Command requesting Dispatch recall (1) member for Cause and Origin.
 
1505hrs-Command requesting Red Cross.
 
1510hrs-40 minute status check. Command advising interior fire in knocked down, crews working on exterior fire, all 2nd Alarm companies commited, 1st Alarm companies taking a breather.
 
1523hrs-Command placing the fire under control, all hands still working, holding all 1st & 2nd Alarm companies.
 
*All times are approximate 

Date: 11/10/17
Time: 1425hrs
Location: 205 Liberty St/Campbell St
District: City of Newburgh 
Battalion:
Channel: 
Weather: Cold/Windy 
Units: NFD C4 (IC), C3, E1, E3, T1, E10/T10 (call back), West Point (Truck), Air Guard (Engine), Castle Point (Engine)
Writer: BFD1054
Description: Working Fire 
1425hrs (approx)-OC911 alerting 2nd Alarm companies; West Point (Truck) & Air Guard (Engine) to the scene, Middlehope and Cronomer Valley to stand by Public Safety Building. 
 
1430hrs-Dispatch advising Command that E10 abd T10 have been re-hired, as well as an Assistant Chief.
 
1437hrs-Dispatch looking for a progress report. Command advising all hands working, (2) lines in operation, fire on the 3rd floor and into the cockloft, waiting for mutual aid to arrive with "plenty of work for them."
 
1448hrs-Command advising West Point and Air Guard working, companies checking exposures. 
 
1450hrs-E10 on scene.
 
1453hrs-Dispatch conducting status check. Command advising (1) line in the exposure building, crews still operating the 2nd and 3rd floor of the fire building.
 
1456hrs-West Point relieving T1's crew on the roof.
 
1457hrs-Command advising that the FAST is on scene. 
 
1459hrs-Command requesting Dispatch recall (1) member for Cause and Origin.
 
1505hrs-Command requesting Red Cross.
 
1510hrs-40 minute status check. Command advising interior fire in knocked down, crews working on exterior fire, all 2nd Alarm companies commited, 1st Alarm companies taking a breather.
 
1523hrs-Command placing the fire under control, all hands still working, holding all 1st & 2nd Alarm companies.
 
*All times are approximate 

Date: 10/27/17
Time: 1714hrs
Location: Rt 52 & Rt 17K
District: Pine Bush/Town of Crawford
Battalion:
Channel:
Weather: Rain
Units: PBFD C1 (IC), E226, Walden (tools) & Fire Police, 36-12, Mobile Life EMS, Town of Crawford PD
Writer: BFD1054
Description: MVA w/Entrapment 
1714hrs (approx)-OC911 altering Pine Bush for the reported roll-over MVA, Route 52 and Route 17K.
 
1716hrs-OC911 re-sounding Pine Bush, confirmed MVA w/Entrapment.
 
1718hrs-PBFD Car-1 on scene advising multiple patients entrapped, requesting Walden to the scene for additional tools.
 
1721hrs-Command advising (3) adult patients, (1) pediatric patient, (2) of which will be ALS.
 
1725hrs-Walden Rescue responding. OC911 advising (2) ALS ambulances en-route.
 
1729hrs-Command advising (1) adult and (1) child extricated, working on extricating the remaining victims.
 
1731hrs-Walden Rescue on scene.
 - Command advising (2) additional adults extricated, working on the last.
 - 36-12 and Walden Car-1 on scene.
 
1732hrs-Command advising that Mobile Life EMS is on scene.
 
1740hrs-36-12 advising the last patient has been extricated, extrication now complete.
 
1751hrs-36-12 advising Waldens Rescue has been released, their Fire Police remaining for road closure.
 
1758hrs-36-12 in service from the scene.
 
1809hrs-Command advising all patients have been transported, PB E226, as well as Fire Police from PB and Walden remaining on scene.
 
1816hrs-Command advising all Pine Bush and Walden units in service, returning, scene turned over to Crawford PD, Command terminated.

Date: 10/27/17
Time: 1714hrs
Location: Rt 52 & Rt 17K
District: Pine Bush/Town of Crawford
Battalion:
Channel:
Weather: Rain
Units: PBFD C1 (IC), E226, Walden (tools) & Fire Police, 36-12, Mobile Life EMS, Town of Crawford PD
Writer: BFD1054
Description: MVA w/Entrapment 
1714hrs (approx)-OC911 altering Pine Bush for the reported roll-over MVA, Route 52 and Route 17K.
 
1716hrs-OC911 re-sounding Pine Bush, confirmed MVA w/Entrapment.
 
1718hrs-PBFD Car-1 on scene advising multiple patients entrapped, requesting Walden to the scene for additional tools.
 
1721hrs-Command advising (3) adult patients, (1) pediatric patient, (2) of which will be ALS.
 
1725hrs-Walden Rescue responding. OC911 advising (2) ALS ambulances en-route.
 
1729hrs-Command advising (1) adult and (1) child extricated, working on extricating the remaining victims.
 
1731hrs-Walden Rescue on scene.
 - Command advising (2) additional adults extricated, working on the last.
 - 36-12 and Walden Car-1 on scene.
 
1732hrs-Command advising that Mobile Life EMS is on scene.
 
1740hrs-36-12 advising the last patient has been extricated, extrication now complete.
 
1751hrs-36-12 advising Waldens Rescue has been released, their Fire Police remaining for road closure.
 
1758hrs-36-12 in service from the scene.
 
1809hrs-Command advising all patients have been transported, PB E226, as well as Fire Police from PB and Walden remaining on scene.
 
1816hrs-Command advising all Pine Bush and Walden units in service, returning, scene turned over to Crawford PD, Command terminated.

Pictures of Brewster's Seagraves are up on Hudson Valley's Facebook

While I think most would agree specialty tools like the Navy Nozzle, bayonet nozzles, or Bresdan Distributors have a place on apparatus, their uses are for a specific set of circumstances. In this case, even if you felt it was not safe to enter the bus, the rear door would have made an easy access point for a normal firestream. 
 
On evacuating the bus, does anyone know the procedure the drivers are taught (maybe not standard?). This looks like the perfect case for the driver to send kids out the back and check seat by seat on his way out the back as well? But, does the driver have to open the door, or can kids of any age do this in an emergency? If the driver has to go back and open the door, he may never get back to the front to check seat by seat... Something I'd never really given any consideration, but this discussion got me thinking. 

By the time the first rig arrived that bus was toast. Presumably all occupants were out. Why even go inside? Seems like a big risk to try and salvage some part of a vehicle. Just hit it from the outside.

34 is Yorktown
36 is Ossining/Croton/Briarcliff
35 & 39 is Cortlandt/Peekskill
37 is Mount Pleasant

 
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/westchester/white-plains/2017/09/30/white-plains-fire-dept-hose-donation-remade-into-toys-zoo-animals/720060001/

Cool Story....
 
http://m.newson6.com/story.aspx?story=36407229&catId=112042

Date: 09/23/17
Time: 1815hrs
Location: 6 Marshall Dr. (Knox Village apartments)
District: Vails Gate
Battalion: 4
Channel:
Weather: 
Units: VGFD, Spring Valley (Engine), Nanuet (Engine), City of Newburgh (1&1), NWEMS, NWPD
Writer: BFD1054
Description: Working Fire
1815hrs-Vails Gate, stand-by companies and Newburgh FD dispatched to report of wires arching next to a building. 
Command arrived to find active fire in the basement. Companies stretched (2) hand lines and made quick work of the fire. 
 
 

Date: 09/23/17
Time: 1815hrs
Location: 6 Marshall Dr. (Knox Village apartments)
District: Vails Gate
Battalion: 4
Channel:
Weather: 
Units: VGFD, Spring Valley (Engine), Nanuet (Engine), City of Newburgh (1&1), NWEMS, NWPD
Writer: BFD1054
Description: Working Fire
1815hrs-Vails Gate, stand-by companies and Newburgh FD dispatched to report of wires arching next to a building. 
Command arrived to find active fire in the basement. Companies stretched (2) hand lines and made quick work of the fire. 
 
 

400 strong , I mean ?
 

When: Saturday September 23, 2017, 0830-1630
What: DC Michael Terpak JCFD Ret. Size-Up Situational Awareness Seminar
Where: Fairfield Regional Fire School, 205 Richard White Way, Fairfield, CT 06824
Fee: $75 per student, includes lunch
To register: https://goo.gl/forms/WTc4jbOIHL6LLjvR2
 
 

 
 
 
 
 

 

It is unfortunate that some are not "officially" remembered, but like Alan I don't believe that's because there's a concerted effort to omit them. Some may have been overlooked but the thing is they can really only be forgotten if we let them be, so let us promise ourselves that we will not let that happen. Of course the 343 hold a well deserved special place for us as firefighters and we should honor their sacrifice and their heroism until the day we die. But so too must we honor the other 2653 who perished along with them that day. All had their lives cut short for no other reason than they were at the WTC or the Pentagon or on flight 93 that fateful day. Every one of the 2996 people who were murdered on 9/11 had a family and friends and colleagues who were left with a huge unfillable void in their lives by these senseless deaths. Each and every one of those people deserves to be remembered not just as a statistic, but as a person with hopes and dreams and a destiny left unfulfilled. Kieth Roma is one of them and if he cannot be "officially" recognized so be it, but he and all of the victims can be remembered by each of us here. Whether we do it in public or in private, as long as we remember those lost they will all continue to live on.
 
What we do now, how we remember, becomes more important with each passing year. There will come a day when no one alive was alive on Sept. 11, 2001, so how we remember the events and victims of 9/11 today will be all that future generations have...let us be sure to leave them with something worthy of the lives that were taken.
 
 
 
 
 

I remember a campaign shortly after September 11, to increase the number to 345, to include 2 fire wardens who were recently retied FDNY FF's but as building fire wardens report to the command post and work withing the ICS structure. That campaign did not succeed, and did not include Kieth Roma. I have seen patches that have the state court officer patch on them and others that do not. Sadly this attack was such a tragedy that many inadvertently fail to remember the full scope of it. I don't think there is a concerted effort to not remember anyone.

First off I can honestly say that I would never take that position. But where you said, "challenges to overcome in doing anything new". I believe you shouldn't attempt to do anything new before you fix the problems that you have. It doesn't matter what rig goes out the door, rescue,engine or ladder, if that's not properly staffed with people on it with a certain level of training, what good is that. Thats unacceptable and dangerous. I feel each department should look at themselves and admit there's a problem. Is going paid or even a combo department the answer I don't know. I'm just saying you need to crawl before you walk. Try not to take on more than you can handle.

This is the problem I have, I'm not sure how many departments there on in Putnam county but I can bet that every department has a rig that has RESCUE on the side of it. Now you can put the lastest and greatest tools and equipment on it. The moment that rig leave the firehouse with a crew like the one stated above,to me that's not a RESCUE. When rigs leave understaffed and with unqualified members that's unacceptable, when you're struggling to do the basics,you shouldn't even think about attempting to do more advanced stuff. Each department should worry about themselves first, increase your manpower and level of training first. Stop worrying about cool t-shirts and how many certifications you have on your was. That doesn't mean anything when it's business hours and it's blowing out windows. 

Here's the million dollar question....
 
Who's going to staff it?  It is going to be a volunteer system, much like the Westchester Haz-mat team, which due to slow response times, has been skipped over many a time for a properly staffed rig?
 
Tech team responses require an immense amount of training, and if you get the cert once and never handle the equipment for months, you're gonna lose that skill...

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