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They suspended him, but what happened to the LT that didn't respond to the medical across the street from quarters?

Children SHOULD be safe in school, but that's not the world we live in. You know what stops a shooter really effectively? .40cal hollow points to center mass coming from those guys in the blue suits wearing the shiny metal thing on their chest.

We keep coming up with more and more excuses NOT to have cops (or at the VERY least, well-trained armed guards) in every single school in America.

"On Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs" -LTC (Ret.) David Grossman, US Army

(This is an excerpt)

"Let me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids' schools.

But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours..."

Having a heavy rescue is different than having a team of people trained to perform a technical rescue such as a trench collapse. I have no idea what Carmel's capabilities are (they may very well have that capacity, and if they do that's pretty awesome) but I'd venture to say that MOST departments with a "Rescue Company" are not trained to do those sorts of technical rescues.

Well question about "coverage" in town. Where do they "post" when they are in town. Ive always been afraid of hearing that term "coverage" in town. Many privates (not saying Mobile Life is part of this) say they will cover and pull that unit for a BLS / ALS interfacility when "running behind". Just checking

You wouldn't happen to be referring to a 3 letter, patriotically named private ambulance company, now would you?

Someone should call the cops...

Wow, that's fantastic. Prince George's County, Maryland established a similar program through a SAFER grant, which works perfectly for them since the majority of their volunteers who live-in at stations are college students.

Good way to get/keep people involved.

Wow, I remember visiting TOMVAC's station when I was a little kid... 38FF on here is a Commish with Marlborough Fire District, maybe he can fill us in on more details.

Also consider out of state resources. Danbury has a multitude of special operations equipment and some really excellently trained personnel to staff them. They definitely couldn't get the numbers SOTF could get, but you'd get some well trained people with some equipment on scene to at least get things started until additional resources could arrive.

Tip of the hat to Chief Wraftery. Well done Sir.

New York State Police has announced the Line of Duty Death of Trooper Christopher G. Skinner. It appears Trooper Skinner was struck by a vehicle while operating at a traffic stop on I-81 near Exit 6 in Broome County at approximately noon today. The suspect fled the scene and was apprehended by 1340 hours.

My thoughts and prayers are with his family, friends and his fellow members of the New York State Police. Rest Easy, Troop.

NYS Trooper Killed on I-81

WBNG

By Conor Mooney
By Anna Norris

Town of Chenango, NY (WBNG Binghamton) New York State Police announced the death of Trooper Christopher G. Skinner.

According to state police, around noon Thursday, Trooper Skinner was outside his police car conducting a traffic stop on I-81 north, near exit 6, between Chenango Bridge and Castle Creek.

He was struck by a passing vehicle and killed instantly, according to state police.

I'm not sure I understand the controversy regarding the gift shop. I'm not trying to be insensitive but as mentioned, plenty of memorials/museums to some of the most terrible atrocities, battles and disasters in the history of mankind have gift shops.

Is it the fact that there is a gift shop in the first place, or the items that the gift shop sells that are causing controversy?

Again, I really do not mean to offend anyone, just looking to understand.

Yonkers PD ESU with a Narcan save:

http://www.citizenobserver.com/cov6/app/alert.html?id=38536

Yonkers OEM posted it to their Facebook page.

More useful than "Midnight Alarm" or "Water Barrel." I like the historical competitions, but I'm MUCH happier to see people practice on useful skills.

I'd be interested to see how this turns out. Good luck!

Could be a high profile prisoner? I know CT DOC Special Ops routinely does escorts of high priority prisoners for security purposes. Not sure.

Date: 5/13/14
Time: Approx 1050 Hours
Location: Vernon, CT
Units: Various

Description:

***UPDATE*** Located in Bangor, ME. Children are safe, mother is in custody.

AMBER ALERT (Missing Children) for Connecticut

Police are searching for a RED 2004 VOLKSWAGON JETTA (CT License Plate 876-YGJ) operated by abductor JACKIE MORRIS (32.)

Missing Children are RYAN LEWIS (9) and twins BRANDON and DYLAN LEWIS (7).

Abductor is homeless, has ties to CT, Massachusetts and Maine and has a history of mental health issues.

If seen please contact 911 immediately.

The search team to hold hands or tether themselves to the hose while a victims fights for every last breath?

Don't forget the tried and true Firefighter 1 Boot Hold Method.

Job well done by Hartsdale FD.

Greenburgh's program has always been one of the better ones in the region. Congrats to GPD's Explorers on a job well done!

The reason it legally isn't the responsibility of the parents is because they are 18/19. Yes you can play the "you live under my roof" card as a parent, but bottom line they can do what they want, including moving out of the house.

While school SHOULD be their first priority, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for a minute. Its really the Member's decision, and I'm not quite sure how a fire department could set that kind of restriction on a certified employee who is of age.

Juniors are easy to regulate because OSHA (or PESH) should have regulations about minors and all that.

Just an important distinction I think.

The most infamous multi-shooter school incident in the US (Columbine HS) wasn't really meant to be a shooting anyway, the primary means of inflicting casualties was supposed to be explosives. Fortunately the two scumbags responsible were TERRIBLE bomb-makers.

These people animals know they aren't going to win a shootout against armed responders. They're high school/college kids, not high-speed, low-drag operators... As soon as they hear sirens its lights out...

Well the information that I believe jybehofd was referencing was the development of the "Warm Zone" EMS concept applied to active shooters; where EMTs/Medics will be going in (under armed escort) to collect and evac casualties.

VelcroMedic I know YOU know this, but for the rest of you who don't, please say it with me: That is NOT the same as a Tactical EMS program... (so those of you out there who think we're going to turn all EMS providers into elite SWAT Operators can all cancel your orders for Olive Drab BDU pants and subdued EMT patches... Sorry to disappoint).

ICS is certainly going to be referenced and stressed in the report because if you look at the majority of these incidents, Command and Control is almost always identified as an area of improvement, because the majority of our agencies STILL can't understand the concept of Unified Command and the other central tenants of the system.

Pretty sure we did a thread about that idea a few months back. If someone wants to dig it out we can probably avoid a lot of repetition and postmortem equestrian pugilism...

What federal standards are you referring to? Can you share the info?

I think he means "guidance," its definitely not a standard yet.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/active_shooter_guide.pdf

As always I'm going to pour some gasoline on this one...

Law Enforcement 2012 Line of Duty Deaths: 125

9/11 Related Illness: 4

Aircraft Accident: 3

Assault: 1

Automobile Accident: 22

Duty Related Illness: 3

Fall: 2

Gunfire: 48

Gunfire (Accidental): 2

Heart Attack: 6

Heat Exhaustion: 1

Motorcycle Accident: 5

Stabbed: 5

Struck By Vehicle: 6

Training Accident: 1

Vehicle Pursuit: 5

Vehicular Assault: 11

Source: National Law Enforcement Officers' Memorial Fund

Fire Service 2012 Line of Duty Deaths: 81

Stress/Overexertion: 39

Heat Exhaustion: 2

Vehicle Collision (Motor Vehicle:) 12

Airplane Crash: 6

Lost and Disoriented: 0

Collapse: 4

Shooting: 2

Struck by Vehicle: 3

Struck by Object: 2

Fall: 1

Drowning: 1

Other Illness: 3

Source: US Fire Administration

*Note: I broke out some of the statistics on the fire side to make them better match some of the LE ones. I'd also argue there were probably some 9/11 related deaths not included for whatever reason*

National Law Enforcement Officers' Memorial Fund lists over 900,000 sworn Law Enforcement Officers in the United States.

US Fire Administration lists about 1.2 million Firefighters in the United States.

Granted, this information is a snapshot based only on one year of data (I don't have the time right now to do a full statistical analysis,) and also doesn't include Line of Duty Injuries but at least in 2012:

~.01389% of the LEOs serving in the US were killed in the Line of Duty

~.00675 of Firefighters serving in the US were killed in the Line of Duty

Wallingford, CT

Sutphen Engine for new Engine 2 assigned to Central Fire HQ (Currently in progress)

Derby, CT

Storm Engine Company - Pierce Engine for Engine 11 (Not yet in progress)

Storm Ambulance Corps - Remounted ambulance (FD-10) on new Freightliner cab/chassis done by Twin Lights in Milford. (Currently in progress)

New Fairfield, CT

New ambulance to replace 91-2 (Formerly called Squantz Ambulance) - I don't believe a manufacturer has been chosen yet.

New Haven, CT

3 Engines (all Pierce Arrow XTs) - Replacing Engines 5, 9, 11

http://firematic.com/cgi-bin/truckpdf1.cgi?path=New%20Haven%2027401#page=2

-9's and 11's will be the same as the truck pictured, Engine 5 will be larger as it will be a foam pumper. No aerial device on the new E5.

-Engine 5 is assigned to the Woodward Avenue station with Emergency Unit #1

-Engine 9 is assigned to the West Battalion HQ (Ellsworth Avenue) with Squad Company 2 and Car 34 (West Battalion Chief.)

-Engine 11 is assigned to the Howard Avenue Station with Truck 4 and Emergency Unit #2

Not to be a downer, but this helmet's got 2 years left correct ?

If you believe in that sort of thing, sure.

Reposting something I put on another forum about this topic with a few additions.

While they certainly acted outside their scope of training and equipment, the NYPD Housing Bureau environment isn't like anything we have here in CT. Unless I'm mistaken, most NYPD Housing beats cover a few buildings, those floors are where they patrol. Its not like they flew halfway across Brooklyn, parked their car in front of the hydrant and ran up, these Officers spend their whole shifts in these high-rises. Was taking the elevator a poor decision? I think the answer to that is obvious. But there's another issue at play here.

It seems to me that there are a lot of people in the fire service who are quick to excoriate a couple of Police Officers trying to do something to help the people in their beat, but some of those same people have nothing negative to say when Bubba rolls the tanker over doing 90MPH to an Activated Fire Alarm and neither him nor the guy in the right seat were wearing seat-belts. And why not? Because its out of respect for the families and the department affected.

My point is, members of our service have made our share of missteps, mistakes and/or plain old bad decisions from time to time, but we don't drag people through the mud. We wait until we know the facts and we show respect for those trying to bury their lost before we start picking things apart. Why don't P.O.s Guerra and Rodriguez get the same courtesy? We're on the same team here, folks.

As someone else stated, the NYPD Commissioner has identified a training gap and has stated publicly that they are going to work to improve it to prevent further injuries or Line of Duty Deaths. Which is more than some Fire Departments can say...

My thoughts and prayers are with Officer Guerra's family and his Brothers and Sisters in the NYPD. Hoping for a full and speedy recovery for Officer Rodriguez as well.