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14 hours ago, 16fire5 said:

Anyone know what the diamond plate boxes are for under the ground ladders?  Standpipe hose?  

Correct

On 11/17/2017 at 9:02 AM, wcr20 said:

Band?

 

UHF, around the 450's, if it's the FD I think it is

5 hours ago, antiquefirelt said:

One must wonder if the Union was for or against consolidation in these cases? Hard to imagine taxpayers supporting their own FD if the FD thinks the new one would be better. Seems more likely the Union was key in retaining their own FD. Hermosa may be a true "win-win"?

Nope. In both El Segundo and Monterey Park the local and the Chief supported consolidation. In El Segundo anti-consolidation groups cited minimal savings and loss of local control. In Monterey Park, anti-consolidation people accused the union of supporting the measure so they could "have upward mobility in a larger department" despite $2m in savings.

ES: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/el-segundo-votes-to-keep-citys-fire-department.html

MP: http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/article/ZZ/20130531/NEWS/130539831

6 minutes ago, Oaks said:

Sounds like it benefits the firefighters more then the public.

Hermosa Beach is a seaside town of 19,000 with a fire department that consists of one fire engine and an ambulance. If you can't see how regional services delivery could help a community like that I don't know who could. The whole south bay consists of two engine and one truck departments like Manhattan, Hermosa, Redondo, and El Segundo which could regionalize like say, North Hudson NJ or the Verdugo cities in the LA basin. Besides those, there's Torrance, a mid size department and then the inland cities like Inglewood, Hawthorne and Carson as well as the Palos Verde area which are all LACoFD.

At least two other cities (El Segundo and Monterey Park) with similar demographics to Hermosa Beach tried this recent years. Both were defeated by taxpayers at referendum even though they came with savings.

Ah yes the Kentland 33 yahoo's. Not surprised this happened to them. Only a matter of time. They are a bit too unprofessional for anyone's tastes. I have met firemen from around the country and world, both career and volunteer, and no one can hold a candle to how these guys run. We are all Type A personalities and cocky but look at how these guys present themselves. "We are better then you" "Busiest company in the country" That's all nice and cute but every time the run totals come out they seem to not be the top guys. hmmm.

There is this story

Yeah, "BMA", I agree, keyboard commando.

You are really good at using Google images, I will give you that. I'm aware that fire department buses and transport trucks exist. I am also acutely aware that space ships exist. Yes, it is still dumb. We're not talking USAR or wildland. It's not a crew of part time college kids with backpacks and rakes. You have a fire station with firemen and fire trucks and now you want everyone to buy a bus to take instead of the fire truck. You are advocating buying 8-24 duplicate SCBAs, hand tools, saws, flashlights etc. To put on a transport bus. To take to a routine fire. Yes. This is still very dumb. Also if all the firemen take the bus, who is going to be there for the fire engine anyway? I'm starting to see the writing on the wall of why to stop reading this site. I'm arguing with someone on the internet if firemen should take a bus or a fire engine. Time to find a new hobby.

We can't outfit a small bus with 8 SCBA's to transport members of a mutual aid dept to the scene? I guess it's not as fun to respond in on a job on a bus as it is an engine!

Probably the dumbest thing I've read on this site in over ten years, impressive

Tragedy of this magnitude and people cry because they didn't get to move up to a different fire station.

Some buff guy, check ya sources. Yorktown did 607.

You sure showed him, a whole 18 runs he missed

So the squads are going to be three piece companies with a haz-mat rescue, a rescue engine, and one of the medium rescues that Ferrara just completed?

http://www.ferrarafire.com/NewDeliveries/Pages/rescues/5489.html

No, this takes the place of the haz mat bread truck, like he said above.

You had to much Kool Aid.

This guy don't quit

I love the commitment to mediocrity. Commit to training as much as you commit to excuses and everyone will pass.

My only gripes with this are Station #3 (saw carry) & #4 (ladder raise). Besides the Yard Breathers, who wears an SCBA for this stuff?

Uhhh....if you're going to the roof, you get off the rig with a pack on, get the ladder up and bring your saw up.

A ceiling simulator???????????????

Yeah, pulling ceilings.

And that elbow on the front bumper is a giant waste. Adds $40,000 - &60,000 to the cost (plus additional maintenance costs), the friction loss to get from the front bumper to the pump is equal to 112+ feet of hose (to travel 15 feet) and it reduces the flow by up to 30%. In other words why buy a 1,500gpm pump when you plan to cap its supply at 1,000gpm?

This is a misleading statement that really annoys me because people who don't understand it ( i know you do) regurgitate it. No, if you are supplying your 3000gpm rearmount aerial with two monitors, you should not use the front intake. But at many of our bread and butter fires we're flowing one or two 1.75"s at 185 each and maybe a 2.5" at 325gpm. In other words, that 1000gpm cap will be fine. The front intake has a soft suction preconnected, it's fast and good for tight streets.

Sounds like M'Ave is partial to Big P (Kool Aid) or the eight letter company that starts with S & ends with E.

My favorite part of EmtBravo....A keyboard yahoo from Saskatchewan telling the guys who ride the rigs how it is. The Ferraras suck, end of story

Nope, just a tool. That's what it is. We clean our rig the same way we clean a haligan.....because they're both tools. The can man has his can, the OV has his haligan and hook and a chauffeur has his apparatus.

I call myself a fireman, because that's what I am. Firemen are what they are because of the job they do.....not the vehicle they ride in, that's just silly.

It's not a symbol of anything bigger......the members inside, they matter. A truck is a truck.

The rig isn't symbolic of anything bigger than just a machine. No pride in the machines. Got it.

I'm pretty sure I've been looking at this website for at least eight years if not longer, and the same people are still making the same posts about wetdowns and parades. Does it ever get old? Does anyone still wonder why this forum is dead?

Los Angeles CITY FD

Rescue Ambulance 51

2014 Dodge 4500/Northstar Emergency Vehicles

Saw the old 51 at the same Ralph's just off the airport property last year.

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So that leaves the following truck companies in Westchester out of service as far as the aerial goes?

Somers (1 Quint and 1 Tower Ladder)

Millwood

Scarsdale (Ladder 29)

Larchmont

Mamaroneck (Straight stick TDA)

Chappaqua

Mount Kisco

Thornwood

Harrison

Port Chester

Am I forgetting any?

Only Mt Kisco

And a corrupt &/or mismanaged volunteer system is sooo much better?

Always fire based or third service. If you wanna be a commercial agency, expect the respect (and pay) of any joe blow urgent care clinic.

EMS people constantly ask why they aren't respected as stuff like this happens. EMS should never be part of a commercial service. Don't expect to ever get public safety recognition when you act like a business.

Hardly an attack. That's nothing more than a campaign ad for fire commissioner.

Nope, it's under attack. Don't judge the situation by one letter.

Admittedly I don't know a ton about drafting but I didn't know you could get a good draft with storz connections.