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If you are worried about the shirt under your gear melting, you have bigger things to worry about. Like your facepiece melting or inhalation burns.
Its also not just a comfort thing, its also the lubricity that the garment provides. Lubricity is the ease of motion when wearing the garment, directly relates to how silky the facecloth of the liner system is. Not all FD's gear have a ton of lubricity so an UA style garment makes up for where the TOG lacks.
I've been exercising wearing a UA style shirt and gym shorts when the tones go off and I don't think twice. You will be living in a world of S for the rest of your life even if you survive a fire that is so hot it will melt the shirt to your body.
As for the FR ones, they are out there. I was gifted one made by Lion which I like during the Summer. Not as silky as an UA style but it has the anti stink materials in the design. I know MSA use to carry ones, but I think they may have sold with their LE/Military division of ballistics. I have also seen Power Dry FR shirts on Wildland Warehouse's website.

If everyone keeps suggesting $100 / hr artists, this year's operating costing are going to go up for the site. I also suggest you explore something on your lower back, I hear that is in style.

If everyone keeps suggesting $100 / hr artists, this year's operating costing are going to go up for the site. I also suggest you explore something on your lower back, I hear that is in style.

Or because we are in denial that EMS is a big, if not bigger part of our scope of operations.

How about a hard case glove dispenser box (Moore Medical)and use a PAC Track rated bracket to hold it in place.

How about a hard case glove dispenser box (Moore Medical)and use a PAC Track rated bracket to hold it in place.

Guys, there are hundreds of FEMA trailers packed with stuff at Floyd Bennet Field. The Chief of these departments needs to request it. If FEMA is refusing to give them stuff then OFPC (DHSES) needs to be contacted. There is equipment other than WMD trailers stock piled that maybe helpful.
Broad Channel obviously needs a "loaner" rig before they need handlights. I say loaner because an upstate FD was not going to be reimbursed for their rescue after it was totalled initially because they were given one. The donating department had to provide "terms" to the loan.
Also I already saw new equipment from a vendor being delivered at some firehouses. These guys can work out special terms with a vendor and have all new equipment faster than guy from upstate can take a collection of unwanted junk and get it delivered.
What I have seen is that they need help. Help gutting their homes and getting their lives back. They pay the taxes already, so make the city step up and provide protection. Men you have done a great job, take a rest and let someone else pick up the burden for a little while.

Sleepy Hollow you have always been nothing but gentlemen whenever I have dealt with you. Your actions continue in the finest tradtions of the fire service, I salute you.
Guys even if you can only spare $25, go to Home Depot and buy a $10.00 1-Gallon sprayer and $15.00 worth of the heaviest duty bangs you can afford.
If you are going or planning on volunteering in Breezy, I recommend going through Operation Gut & Pump. If you need details or information PM me. Gut & Pump is doing what the city is not, they are making an electronic data base of homes and dispatching volunteer crews. If you want to volunteer, they have work for everyone. If you are able bodied the following tools besides work clothes, boots, & gloves may help: utility knife, hammer, flat bar, extra gloves, sheet rock saw, measuring tape, snap-line, & extra gloves. Yes I said gloves three times. For the handy man helper, a battery operated circular saw or sawzall for when you hit wood paneling. Charge it and the spare battery before going!
Thank you, stay safe and good luck men. See you in Breezy or Gerritsen Beach.

Guys, there are hundreds of FEMA trailers packed with stuff at Floyd Bennet Field. The Chief of these departments needs to request it. If FEMA is refusing to give them stuff then OFPC (DHSES) needs to be contacted. There is equipment other than WMD trailers stock piled that maybe helpful.
Broad Channel obviously needs a "loaner" rig before they need handlights. I say loaner because an upstate FD was not going to be reimbursed for their rescue after it was totalled initially because they were given one. The donating department had to provide "terms" to the loan.
Also I already saw new equipment from a vendor being delivered at some firehouses. These guys can work out special terms with a vendor and have all new equipment faster than guy from upstate can take a collection of unwanted junk and get it delivered.
What I have seen is that they need help. Help gutting their homes and getting their lives back. They pay the taxes already, so make the city step up and provide protection. Men you have done a great job, take a rest and let someone else pick up the burden for a little while.

Sleepy Hollow you have always been nothing but gentlemen whenever I have dealt with you. Your actions continue in the finest tradtions of the fire service, I salute you.
Guys even if you can only spare $25, go to Home Depot and buy a $10.00 1-Gallon sprayer and $15.00 worth of the heaviest duty bangs you can afford.
If you are going or planning on volunteering in Breezy, I recommend going through Operation Gut & Pump. If you need details or information PM me. Gut & Pump is doing what the city is not, they are making an electronic data base of homes and dispatching volunteer crews. If you want to volunteer, they have work for everyone. If you are able bodied the following tools besides work clothes, boots, & gloves may help: utility knife, hammer, flat bar, extra gloves, sheet rock saw, measuring tape, snap-line, & extra gloves. Yes I said gloves three times. For the handy man helper, a battery operated circular saw or sawzall for when you hit wood paneling. Charge it and the spare battery before going!
Thank you, stay safe and good luck men. See you in Breezy or Gerritsen Beach.

Sleepy Hollow you have always been nothing but gentlemen whenever I have dealt with you. Your actions continue in the finest tradtions of the fire service, I salute you.
Guys even if you can only spare $25, go to Home Depot and buy a $10.00 1-Gallon sprayer and $15.00 worth of the heaviest duty bangs you can afford.
If you are going or planning on volunteering in Breezy, I recommend going through Operation Gut & Pump. If you need details or information PM me. Gut & Pump is doing what the city is not, they are making an electronic data base of homes and dispatching volunteer crews. If you want to volunteer, they have work for everyone. If you are able bodied the following tools besides work clothes, boots, & gloves may help: utility knife, hammer, flat bar, extra gloves, sheet rock saw, measuring tape, snap-line, & extra gloves. Yes I said gloves three times. For the handy man helper, a battery operated circular saw or sawzall for when you hit wood paneling. Charge it and the spare battery before going!
Thank you, stay safe and good luck men. See you in Breezy or Gerritsen Beach.

Sleepy Hollow you have always been nothing but gentlemen whenever I have dealt with you. Your actions continue in the finest tradtions of the fire service, I salute you.
Guys even if you can only spare $25, go to Home Depot and buy a $10.00 1-Gallon sprayer and $15.00 worth of the heaviest duty bangs you can afford.
If you are going or planning on volunteering in Breezy, I recommend going through Operation Gut & Pump. If you need details or information PM me. Gut & Pump is doing what the city is not, they are making an electronic data base of homes and dispatching volunteer crews. If you want to volunteer, they have work for everyone. If you are able bodied the following tools besides work clothes, boots, & gloves may help: utility knife, hammer, flat bar, extra gloves, sheet rock saw, measuring tape, snap-line, & extra gloves. Yes I said gloves three times. For the handy man helper, a battery operated circular saw or sawzall for when you hit wood paneling. Charge it and the spare battery before going!
Thank you, stay safe and good luck men. See you in Breezy or Gerritsen Beach.

Guys, there are hundreds of FEMA trailers packed with stuff at Floyd Bennet Field. The Chief of these departments needs to request it. If FEMA is refusing to give them stuff then OFPC (DHSES) needs to be contacted. There is equipment other than WMD trailers stock piled that maybe helpful.
Broad Channel obviously needs a "loaner" rig before they need handlights. I say loaner because an upstate FD was not going to be reimbursed for their rescue after it was totalled initially because they were given one. The donating department had to provide "terms" to the loan.
Also I already saw new equipment from a vendor being delivered at some firehouses. These guys can work out special terms with a vendor and have all new equipment faster than guy from upstate can take a collection of unwanted junk and get it delivered.
What I have seen is that they need help. Help gutting their homes and getting their lives back. They pay the taxes already, so make the city step up and provide protection. Men you have done a great job, take a rest and let someone else pick up the burden for a little while.

Time. If everyone had spare time they would do more, if everyone had spare time then the equipment would always get checked (correctly), time to recruit more members, time to train, time to take pictures for website, time to.......
Or no one cares except the guy who started it

First I agree with the Captain, you can't train one way and play another. But I don't agree with outside troops. They need to get their troops back in firehouses and rigs repaired. Realistically Detroit needs to have the Seabees visit during drill weekends and demolish vacants. Once there is a consolidation of vacants (work load) a fully staffed / repaired department can fulfill the needs for the public

I think most guys use the 6 lb flathead. I have noticed that many of the Fire Hooks FA6 (Flathead Axe 6#) have a little "C" which looks like a square stamped on them. Council tool's axes have a very similar looking stamp on them, coincidence? Axes, especial 6 pounders, are nothing special.
I think when you say different, it is in reference to the shaft. Akron only offers the 8 lb Flathead with a straight stick style handle not a curved handle.
An 8 lb Flathead is a lot of money, you would get better Forcible Entry bang for you buck with a Wide Adz Halligan (Probar) from Fire Hooks. These are now actually produced by FH because so many people were modifying them, themselves or requesting FH to do it.
M'ave is correct guys (especially those who deal with a lot of projects or fire proofs) prefer the Maul. If you are considering making your "Irons" a maul & halligan, look at Fire Hooks' maul with Adz bracket. It will make marrying & carrying easier. We have a home made version of this that makes life easy.

I think most guys use the 6 lb flathead. I have noticed that many of the Fire Hooks FA6 (Flathead Axe 6#) have a little "C" which looks like a square stamped on them. Council tool's axes have a very similar looking stamp on them, coincidence? Axes, especial 6 pounders, are nothing special.
I think when you say different, it is in reference to the shaft. Akron only offers the 8 lb Flathead with a straight stick style handle not a curved handle.
An 8 lb Flathead is a lot of money, you would get better Forcible Entry bang for you buck with a Wide Adz Halligan (Probar) from Fire Hooks. These are now actually produced by FH because so many people were modifying them, themselves or requesting FH to do it.
M'ave is correct guys (especially those who deal with a lot of projects or fire proofs) prefer the Maul. If you are considering making your "Irons" a maul & halligan, look at Fire Hooks' maul with Adz bracket. It will make marrying & carrying easier. We have a home made version of this that makes life easy.

I think most guys use the 6 lb flathead. I have noticed that many of the Fire Hooks FA6 (Flathead Axe 6#) have a little "C" which looks like a square stamped on them. Council tool's axes have a very similar looking stamp on them, coincidence? Axes, especial 6 pounders, are nothing special.
I think when you say different, it is in reference to the shaft. Akron only offers the 8 lb Flathead with a straight stick style handle not a curved handle.
An 8 lb Flathead is a lot of money, you would get better Forcible Entry bang for you buck with a Wide Adz Halligan (Probar) from Fire Hooks. These are now actually produced by FH because so many people were modifying them, themselves or requesting FH to do it.
M'ave is correct guys (especially those who deal with a lot of projects or fire proofs) prefer the Maul. If you are considering making your "Irons" a maul & halligan, look at Fire Hooks' maul with Adz bracket. It will make marrying & carrying easier. We have a home made version of this that makes life easy.

I think most guys use the 6 lb flathead. I have noticed that many of the Fire Hooks FA6 (Flathead Axe 6#) have a little "C" which looks like a square stamped on them. Council tool's axes have a very similar looking stamp on them, coincidence? Axes, especial 6 pounders, are nothing special.
I think when you say different, it is in reference to the shaft. Akron only offers the 8 lb Flathead with a straight stick style handle not a curved handle.
An 8 lb Flathead is a lot of money, you would get better Forcible Entry bang for you buck with a Wide Adz Halligan (Probar) from Fire Hooks. These are now actually produced by FH because so many people were modifying them, themselves or requesting FH to do it.
M'ave is correct guys (especially those who deal with a lot of projects or fire proofs) prefer the Maul. If you are considering making your "Irons" a maul & halligan, look at Fire Hooks' maul with Adz bracket. It will make marrying & carrying easier. We have a home made version of this that makes life easy.

I think most guys use the 6 lb flathead. I have noticed that many of the Fire Hooks FA6 (Flathead Axe 6#) have a little "C" which looks like a square stamped on them. Council tool's axes have a very similar looking stamp on them, coincidence? Axes, especial 6 pounders, are nothing special.
I think when you say different, it is in reference to the shaft. Akron only offers the 8 lb Flathead with a straight stick style handle not a curved handle.
An 8 lb Flathead is a lot of money, you would get better Forcible Entry bang for you buck with a Wide Adz Halligan (Probar) from Fire Hooks. These are now actually produced by FH because so many people were modifying them, themselves or requesting FH to do it.
M'ave is correct guys (especially those who deal with a lot of projects or fire proofs) prefer the Maul. If you are considering making your "Irons" a maul & halligan, look at Fire Hooks' maul with Adz bracket. It will make marrying & carrying easier. We have a home made version of this that makes life easy.

The 1044 & 1010 are the same helmet. Same ride, same weight. The difference is the 1010 has the final paint coat so it is a shiny finish as oppose to a flat finish. (for anyone that wants to split hairs, yes that coat of paint makes minor differences)
The 1044 is offered in less colors but looks saltier, yes that matters to some purchasers.
As per the Ben vs a 1044. The 1044 has a little bigger brim, pro & con. Some feel rides a little higher, but thats just usually the guys who don't adjust the suspension. Also the front holders are different by design. The Ben's are rigid and designed solid, the Cairn's are designed to act as a "crumble zone". Heard guys complain that holder is bent after something impacted the helmet, if it hadn't it would have directly impacted the helmet.
I am issued a Ben and personally blame it on me having a herniated disc from a ceiling collapse. The Ben is a solidly built helmet, pro & con. In my case a con because it transfered all of the force down onto my neck.
The Cairns is designed with rubber straps integrated to the impact cap. This design transfers the force within the helmet until it basically exceeds the helmet shell. This design also incorporates a shell release which because my impact was not a direct top him would have helped me.
A feature that the Cairns has over the Ben in some people's eyes is the Defender visor which is integrated with the impact cap. Again pro & con but a nice option to have available.
If money is not an issue and safety is the priority then the helmet to look at is the Cairns 1000.

Nice job, just remember that hero pilots are the ones that land their plane on a run way everytime. Not the Hudson.

Nice job, just remember that hero pilots are the ones that land their plane on a run way everytime. Not the Hudson.

Nice job, just remember that hero pilots are the ones that land their plane on a run way everytime. Not the Hudson.

The problem with pallets are they are typically hard wood, have stainless steel staples and a lot more heavy duty nails than a roof. With this being said pallets will dull your chains and pop more carbides than real or realistic roof simulators. Putting extra wear on a chain for drilling, then not have it perform 100% at a fire when the brothers are counting on it is a sin.