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Fire Captain Confronts Person Filming Incident With Cell Phone

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If Capt. Smart felt there was a safety issue, he should have asked the photographer to leave a few times, then called for police assistance. The police are trained to deal with situations like that.

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I think the Capt did ask for help in the beginning. just another jerk civilian getting in the way trying to look for a lawsuit. No need to work America, just sue whoever you want to get ahead!!!!

If Capt. Smart felt there was a safety issue, he should have asked the photographer to leave a few times, then called for police assistance. The police are trained to deal with situations like that.

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Bad, this just looks bad. The Capt. was wrong in his delivery of a need to back away.....if that need even existed. Seemed plenty far, but thats just me. People with cameras are the WORST, but they're within their rights, as long as they're our of your way. All we can do is look our best being professional.

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This is the best training video of how NOT to act on the scene of an incident when interacting with the general public. I also have to agree that I question if there was actually a need to move back or if this officer just wanted the video stopped for a personal reason. If a need existed to move back then a simple " please move back X feet for your safety" would have probably elicited cooperation but as soon as it was coupled with the second more really reason for the move, "stop the video" it was turned into a confrontation. The officer gave the citizen mixed signals, am I moving for my safety or because you do not want me video taping regardless of where I stand. If the later then I believe public space and freedoms trump the request especially if he was outside of the "scene".

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The Captain was wrong but I'd be willing to bet that the videographer is a bug and they've had problems with him before...

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Some people think the object under his RVM is a light. A whacker maybe?

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Is there ANY reason at all to turn the microphone on while hes asking a civillian to move back? It's a incident involving a chopper, and he's on the radio yelling at the guy? and then giving an attitude because they didn't respond to his first nasty request? Really? I am pretty sure the first guy who walked up could've asked in a more appropriate way, but no, he had to.

It's just a disgrace in my opinion, even though he could have a valid point on where exactly the camera is pointing, but that's not what he was worried about.

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You kiddin me? This buff was a complet d-bag and shoulda been pinched for disorderly conduct. And what's with the dash light? He's no MoS as a professional first responder would never have carried himself like this video-thug.

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Given that the MDFR personnel in question is an appointed "officer" of his department, a municipal organization directly answerable to the tax payers and citizens for his actions, it is my opinion that this "captain" should have been disciplined and demoted. It is quite obvious based on the video (regardless of what was not recorded), this "officer" is unable to maintain his professional demeanor under even calm conditions. How is this "officer" able to lead his crew, men whose life he is responsible for, into IDLH environments when the environment is not so calm given he can not maintain his own composure? Additionally, his lying to dispatch about the "combative" photographer is reprehensible given that it could have endangered any LEO responding unnecessarily.

Futhermore the MDFR member who stated filming is illegal should have been disciplined as well. It was unacceptable for that member to attempt to limit the photographers right to record what was in plain sight.

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Nothing to see here!

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Summary:

1) No Incident Scene Permiter Rope Off Tape is scene anywhere near where this took place

2) No Police presence anywhere in sight

3) Captain Smart not being 'Very Smart' in the way that he handled himsef in concerning this individual (not professional)

After watching this video, in my opinion, it very well might be that Captain Smart has had issues with this videographer in the past. However, if Captain Smart felt that a perimeter needed to be established in order to protect not only te individuals and property related to the incident, as well as the safety of the surrounding public, then the police should have been summonded to "Rope Off" the area and secure the perimter. Then clear boundries could be establshed to when the general public could stand and observe (should that be their choice and right). What clearly happened, as recorded in this video account was Captain Smart clearly stepping outside of his professional responsiblity and boundries. His primary responsibility should have been the patient, helicopeter and overall scene and not to "individually and directly" handle a bystander who may or may not have been within the secure (not established by police tape) perimeter.

Even touching a citizen with his forearm could have resulted in crimimal charges filed against Captain Stanley. Yes, in today's age of Lawsuits, public safety employees (outside of policie personnel) need to understand what they are in the right to do and what they cannot do. Where were the police at this scene. It appears as if this was taking place long after the initial incident took place. The police, based upon recommendations made by Captain Smart, should have secured the perimeter and handled this matter, not Captain Smart.AND YOU CANNOT TOUCH ANY ONE (he clearly pushed the photographer with his forearm, which is a major NO-NO !!!)

I don't believe that the any crimimal charges will be set onto Captain Smart, but I suspect that the service that he belongs to, will definately have Captain Smart attend classes on how to and how not to deal with situations like this one in the future

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Like it or not the photographer wasn't acting illegally. Bystanders will always be curious to see what's going on with all the bells, whistles and other activity that emergencies create. All personnel should be trained to appropriately deal with these types of situations at all levels.

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