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When you listen to the story, he returned to work after the Truck incident and was injured again some time later.  Then they jerk him around for his benefits.  I suppose we should not be surprised given that the City is Mount Vernon and this a firefighter.  Bureaucrats, sharing the bottom rung with Politicians.

I don't think this is a domino effect.  From what I could pick up from reading a few newspaper stories, the Fire Commissioners for the Greenville Fire District and members of the Greenville Fire Department have fallen out of favor with each other.  The Fire Commissioners answer to the problem was to form another Fire Company, Mountain View Fire & Rescue to serve the town and build a new fire station to accommodate the new company.  One story mentions that some members of the Mountainview Company are 'disgruntled' ex-members of Greenville Fire Dept.  

I'm sure there is much more, more than I care to spend the time researching.  However, this appears to be, IMHO, a case of the general citizenry taking a back seat to the wants and wishes of a few protecting their fiefdoms and power.

Very Nice

I just want someone to show up. I don't care if they have a union card or not.  But, every municipality has an obligation to ensure that emergency requests are answered, quickly and competently.

If you can do it with a volunteer department, fine.  If you can't, adjust your budgets and tax mil rates accordingly.  

I wish that the article had gone into more specificity regarding the $72M operating budget.  Somebody's making some serious money off this tragedy.

Lets look at this another way, from an EMT/Paramedic viewpoint.  I'll keep round numbers.  Lets try to see what the total time was. Dispatch to scene, 8 minutes. On scene evaluation and packaging, 15 minutes, transport to hospital, 15 minutes, discharge of patient and preparation for in service, 15 minutes.  Lets give it all 1 hour.  $2000 for one hour of service, one call.  So if that unit does just 8 calls in an eight hour shift are they billing a minimum of $16,000.  How much did the crew earn for that shift?  Anybody got a problem with that.  

Take it one step further.  If that one unit responds to just eight calls each day, every day for a year, that amounts to $5.8M per year.  How much does the crew earn annually?

On a personal note, I was bitten by a spider a while back and as it was swelling someone suggested it might be a brown recluse bite and I should go to the ER. I took myself. After waiting about an hour I made it to an exam room for another half hour and finally saw someone, don't know if it was a DR or RN, looked at the bite, couldn't confirm what type bite, I left 15 minutes later with a prescription and a $1500 bill. No insurance, I self pay.

Last year I needed a laceration attended to. Took myself to a walk in clinic. Waited 15 minutes, was taken to an exam room, had the laceration cleaned, 5 stitches, by a DR, prescriptions and out the door in about an hour, $125. No insurance, I self pay.

Our health care system is a mess.  

If you are not old enough, let me educate you.  There was a time when a 'used care salesman' was the lowest form of profession.  Lower than Al Bundy, shoe salesman.  But rather than keep that title and status, the used car profession evolved into the pre-owned car profession, climbing many rungs up the professional jobs ladder and relegating Politicians to the lowest rung where they all seem perfectly content.

The City of Savannah just recently announced the formation of a motorcycle squad.  Is this becoming a trend?

Older of us will remember Officer Tom Carr of the Ossining Village PD who always led off the parades on his PD Harley.

22 hours ago, dwcfireman said:

Ok...This temporarily puts the PC career staff back to work.  But, since they're "going back to work," are they still going to earn their full salaries for the time being as they are on administrative leave from the Village of Port Chester?  Or is the Village going to screw them more and only pay them while they are on shift on Rye Brook? 

I don't believe this puts the PC career staff back to work.......only one FF for the Rye Brook night shift that PC was contractually obligated to provide in fulfillment of the agreement between the two. 

So who would actually respond in this apparatus?  It would obviously require a degree of specialized training. Are operators available 24/7 or are they special called to 'go get' the rotator and then respond to a scene?

45 minutes ago, nfd2004 said:

 

  Thank you "buffguy". That will give the readers a good idea of just what happened. So the "Wise Wisdom" of those towns leaders today is to eliminate those 8 career firefighters.

 

  I'm no legal expert but just "IF" something were to go sour in the future, I would guess those public officials could maybe be held liable for their action taken. Reminds me of an old saying I remember. But true today as it was then.

 "Penny wise and a pound foolish".

 

I am not a legal expert either, didn't play on TV or stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, however, I believe public officials are personally insulated from liability for their public decisions.

Regarding Gullivers, while I was active at the time, my department was not involved.  A close friend from Glenville was on scene and still remembers it as if it was yesterday as much as he would prefer to forget it.  Like a combat veteran, there are some memories best left behind.  What happened then one hopes will never happen again, but while fire codes and construction methods can minimize some dangers, as we have seen in years since, catastrophes always find a way to occur.   

11 hours ago, Chkpoint said:

Does PC really need 7 pieces of Engine apparatus?  Probably not but that's a whole other story - towns keeping with traditions of we had 5,6,7 engines for decades so we still need them.  Times and technology change.  Probably get away with 4 engines in PC and consolidate manpower.  Same in places like village of Mamaroneck. Both with 4,5 fire houses do we need that in a small town?    But what do I know.  

Many of the older towns/villages whose departments go back over 100 years have many individual fire companies. One reason was social, however another reason was/is response. 

A central station is fine for a paid department whose personnel is in house, but for a volunteer department whose members must respond from various locations, having multiple stations and apparatus can reduce response time.

26 minutes ago, fdskier said:

 

So the rye brook has their own paid guys during the day and pay someone else to work the night shift???

or are they vollies and they only respond during the day? And the vollies get nights off???

 

 

 

 

Until I am corrected, up until the breach of contract, I believe Rye Brook maintains a paid department to respond to alarms from 7am to 7pm.  During these hours they are supplemented by the Port Chester FD (Paid and Volunteer) and are subordinate to the Port Chester Chiefs 24/7.

From 7pm to 7am a paid FF(s) from Port Chester staffs (staffed) the Rye Brook fire house for an initial response, supplemented by the Port Chester FD (Paid and Volunteer).

Rye Brook paid Port Chester about $1M for this arrangement.

A question? Obviously if Rye Brook was actually paying $1M for coverage which, by admitted breach of contract no longer exists, they presumably could approach the dismissed firefighters to work directly for Rye Brook.  It's been a while since I was in the area, but I recall a nice firehouse on King Street.  Whose firehouse is this? Port Chester or Rye Brook? And, if Rye Brook was only paying for a full time night shift Port Chester firefighter(s), who provided the coverage during the day?

Can someone let us know how this area is/was covered.

On 5/3/2016 at 11:40 PM, alextom said:

Now we're gonna see if the Port Chester Volunteers are truely Brothers. They should all resign immediatly. All of the westchester fire depts should remove themselves from Port Chester mutual aide response until the Board reverses the descision. 

he life or property you save may be your own.  I have needed the services of my own member departments several times.  I would hate to call and have no one answer.  How about you?  If you want to effect change, the fire department membership, directly and by extension through family and friends, can be a powerful voting block.  Used effectively it can bring about changes both in policy and politicians. 

Received this via a forwarded e-mail

From: Mayor Paul S. Rosenberg <rbinfo@cit-e.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016
Subject: Rye Brook Fire Service
To: Rye Brook Blast Email <rbinfo@cit-e.net>
 

Just now, alextom said:

Now we're gonna see if the Port Chester Volunteers are truely Brothers. They should all resign immediatly. All of the westchester fire depts should remove themselves from Port Chester mutual aide response until the Board reverses the descision. 

The life or property you save may be your own.  I have needed the services of my own member departments several times.  I would hate to call and have no one answer.  How about you?  If you want to effect change, the fire department membership, directly and by extension through family and friends, can be a powerful voting block.  Used effectively it can bring about changes both in policy and politicians. 

How does this affect Rye Brook?  Port Chester still maintains protection through the volunteers, do they also now protect Rye Brook?

Where to start.  Volunteers get a pass because they're volunteers and the more the merrier. Our annual physical is pretty thorough and you can get 'downgraded' from interior firefighter to exterior if you miss the marks on some of the exams. It has come a long way from when I joined in 1970 and it was strictly turn your head and cough.

On the paid side, everyone comes out of the academy fit and for many its all down hill from there.  How long it takes to get to the bottom of the hill depends on each individual and their personal discipline.  Even if a department has weight requirements, try to get someone fired.  The weight becomes a disability or the result of a medical condition, maybe its the result of a psychological issue. Throw in some age, gender, religion or ethnicity and try to dismiss that person.  Good Luck.

If you consider yourself a first responder, you need to understand and accept that people are counting on you to perform certain specific functions.  If you physically can't fulfill those functions, you put them and others at risk when you pretend to be someone you are not.

21st. Century.  Bullies, Pirates, Gangs, Dictators, etc. etc.  We're really not as advanced a peoples as some would like to think.

It would appear that the death of the MD medic is also responsible for the life of another.  MOS returning from his funeral were first on the scene of a vehicle fire with the occupant unable to exit the vehicle due to a medical emergency.  The MOS were able to rescue the occupant before the vehicle became engulfed in flame which would have rendered her a horrible death were it not for the intervention of the MOS.

Even in death, he is a lifesaver. 

Haven't attended one in many years but I remember them at the Kensico Dam and they were great times.

Greenhouses, car ports, three season sun rooms/porches.

The news is reporting tonight that the homeowner/shooter will not be facing any charges.  It was a case of mistaken identity in that he believed his house was being broken into.  

Just curious.  Are the marine units operated by many of the departments 'real' fire-rescue boats? I know Yonkers, the County and Tarrytown have capable boats, but what kind of boats are utilized by other depts.  I spent some time on the river myself and it can get pretty rough out there at times.  

Generally the same pump, same tank, same equipment, same engine and transmission to get you to the fire in a slightly less fancy package.  What do they pay for these commercial cab engines vs a custom cab? Probably significant money.