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Just throwing in my two cents here. Many people have already made points that I was considering. I, too, went online to find out the population, square mileage, apparatus, etc.
 
Going back to my fire science college days (many moons ago) I recall something about taking your biggest building in the district and figuring out what you should have for GPM's and that's what you should shoot for. I believe that has something to do with your ISO rating but my memory is vague. Would eliminating the ladder drop their GPM's below an acceptable amount? Here's my idea:
 
They appear to be in a non-hydrant area. If they sell the ladder truck, I believe it would be prudent to replace it with a tanker. The tanker could have a 1,000 GPM pump on it and it could serve as a reserve engine as well if one of their primary pieces went out-of-service long term. If they bought a tanker with 2,000 gallons on board they should be able to mount it on a single rear axle and hence, make it easier to drive and more people may be willing to drive it. The positives at the fire scene are obvious as they would roll-in to the scene with 1,750 + 1,000 + 2,000 = 4,750 gallons of water on board. If they are going to save a structure, the 4,750 should give them the fire power to knock down a fire in a savable structure. Another added benefit is that with the lack of manpower, you're probably not going to get 4 people for the ladder. But if they got a driver for the tanker, it could respond and the driver could stretch a supply line up to the working pumper and then become a firefighter. The pump operator would have to be on his game, but if they park the pieces close enough, there's no reason a pump operator couldn't handle both pumps until help arrives. If you've got limited manpower it's better than nothing and that one extra set of hands may make a difference in advancing a hoseline or performing outside ventilation.
 
I know of one department in a rural area that had a ladder truck and a tanker. The ladder got little use and they had limited drivers for it. When it came time to replace the ladder, they decided to sell it and buy another tanker. Now they have two tankers in the station and both tankers get a heck of a lot more work than the ladder ever did.
 
There are pros and cons to every decision, but in my opinion the selling of the ladder and addition of a tanker would seem like a smart move to me.

 
While better information is of course valuable, the only thing that will reduce response times is more crews and don't hold your breath waiting for Con Edison to do that.
 

How can you be an "ex-felon"?  Once you are convicted of a felony aren't you a felon for life?  This entire premise is bizarre...were their convictions overturned or is the article just idiocy.
 
Once a degenerate, always a degenerate in my opinion.

The most telling part of the story is the fact they cannot get the manpower to get their equipment out the door.
It is a simple fact that # of runs, need, usage, or any other factor will not change.

I think this leads up to many additional questions. A check of this town's total population shows in 2010 they had 4,247 people.
 
1) With a small community population such as this, "would there really be a need for this ladder truck"
 
2) What additional ladder trucks are available through a mutual aid system.
 
3) What types and sizes of buildings are in this town ?
 
4) How many members are certified to operate this piece of apparatus. More importantly how many are able to respond in a moments notice.
 
Based on a picture that was sent to me of the 4th alarm fire today (11/21), this building appears to be a 1 1/2 story frame, perhaps 20 x 60 from what I can see. At the time this picture was taken, it is totally involved.

On a follow up to this story, just got word of a 4th Alarm going on in this town as I write this (Monday, 11/21/2016 at 0900 hours).

Hello all,
saw this picture on the Empress Facebook page and it looks like Yonkers has some new stickers on there METU. One thing that struck me was the logo for Empress Special Ops, does anyone know if this is an actual patch or if Empress Special Ops has a patch to begin with.
Thanks...

Here's a photo of the new sign on display at a Thruway rest stop that I took yesterday.
 

Date:11/18/2016
Time: 1522
Location: Hudson River/GWB
District:PAPD
Battalion:
Channel:WCPD F-1, PIPPD-1, PAPD GWB
Weather:Clear
Units:WCPD M2, PAPD ESU, Patrol, Detectives, PIPPD, Patrol, Detectives, Fort Lee EMS
Writer:  

Description: WCPD M2 while providing security zone for Humpback Whale in area of GWB witnessed aided/jumper. Aided pulled aboard M2 and CPR initiated. Aided transported to Englewood Boat Basin and TOT Fort Lee EMS. Aided transported to Englewood Hospital in traumatic arrest. 

Banksville is refurbishing Tanker 17 at Gowans-Knight:
 
http://www.gowansknight.com/Banksvillerefurb111016.htm

Its also possible that their swiftwater gear is kept on the engine/truck/rescue and this is literally just the truck that carries the boat.

A truck and a small boat does not make a swift water rescue unit. This looks more like a unit to remove people from a flooded street after a water main break. Im not an expert but you would think one would need dry suits, PFDs large reels of rescue rope block and tackle(just to name a few). 

looks like they found a chevy cab and attach a boat to it.
 

Finally, some PR. I think the signage is MUCH needed to educate the public. I'd rather see these then those "Taste NY" signs.
 
http://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-campaign-raise-awareness-move-over-law

We have purchased an HME Short Wheel Base 4X4 Class A Pumper that's in the finishing stages of construction in Wyoming, MI. The 1984 MA-15 is ours and is for sale. We anticipate receiving the new apparatus by the end of November or early December. 

The issue is the school policy, not the enforcement of it. The ban on something that simply looks like something else is what leads to a kid being told he can't wear his father's FD T-shirt because some gangs also wear blue, or that you can't top cupcakes with green plastic army men because the figures have guns violate the weapons policy. School administrators clearly do not live anywhere near reality.

Date: Nov. 5 2016
Time: Aprox. 7 AM
Location: Washington St. & Montrose station Rd 
District: Montrose
Battalion: 10
Channel: Fire 6, Fire 10
Weather: Clear
Units: On-Scene: Montrose (2271, 2272, E121, U68), Buchanan (2551, 2552, U161, U162), Verplanck (2491, U29,U30), Continental Village (2341, MA4, T11, U142), Croton (2082, E119, T10, U14), Millwood (2251, MA10), WCDES (Car 4, Batt. 10, C&O Zone 4), WCPD K9A1, Patrol Units, Aviation, Nassua County Fire Marshal and K9 Relocate: Peekskill E133 to Cont. Village, Ossining 2334 E97 to Montrose HQ
Writer:  Spartan052
PD Aviation and the bambi bucket. IC reported 20 to 25 individual fires and two machines lost. Aditionally Montrose has returned to the scene twice since the original incident
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YES, Please!  Bring this to Westchester!!   Save the ED for emergencies, save 911 for emergencies, save money, and train and pay us better.  Bring IT!.
 
Bill

I'm sure if, God forbid, their house were on fire, I'd bet they'd want to make sure that all the first responders would hear the siren(s).  

 
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't know how many of these calls I've taken over the years, but it drives the point home!
 
 
It's the same thing.  "Let me move to this quiet neighborhood with the small fire department nearby."
 
The point of the siren for a volunteer agency is the redundancy of notifying personnel that an alarm has been charged.  That department has been assigned to an incident in their district or has been summoned as mutual aid to one of their neighboring districts.  Someone needs help, and this in one way to get the volunteers to get up and to the fire house.  It's funny how private citizens just either forget or are ignorant to the way it used to be.  There used to be no text messages, pagers, or electronic devices to wake you up in the middle of the night for a call.  The good old siren did the work for years.  Before that, people had to run down the street screaming "FIRE!" at the top of their lungs!  Yes, technology has done wonders in communicating to us that there is an emergency.  But, the downside to technology is the simple fact that it can fail.  Some hilly districts have dead spots for cell phones and/or pagers.  Some districts cannot afford pagers.  Some districts have almost no cell service.  So, what is the backup?  the good old siren.
 
I would also like to add that the siren is good indicator to motorists in busy downtown areas to prepare them for the looming fire apparatus response.

I have known Lolo from our days working at the TSA. She is the kindest most warm hearted person you will ever meet. You are in our Prays Lolo. Rob Bob and Maria 

The hard part will be enforcement...

A good idea,now maybe sanitation trucks in the largest city in westchester will do likewise... and obey traffic laws....don't misunderstand....they do a great job...and a necessary job ....my opinion

Here's unit 5156 (unsure of year) Chevy  chassis but it's a Frazier at the ER Today 

 
In the Northeast, there was a company called Jaffery,  the made incoming gated relief valves for the pump panels, sometimes still called "Jaffery" valves even though Jaffery is out of business.
 
Stay Safe.