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  1. In the early 1940's, FDNY had a couple of Squad companies. They were manpower units only. They reported to incidents and were utilized for whatever was needed. In the 1950's through the late 1960's FDNY Squad Companies were equipped with step vans. They carried basic truck company tools and were again utilized for whatever functions were needed. In the late 1960's, The squads were assigned pumpers and responded as engine companies. Eventually the Squads were disbanded. In 1977, Squad Company 1 was reestablished in the former quarters of Engine 269 which had been disbanded. They were assigned a pumper and also carried Truck Company Tools. They were used for whatever the Chief needed when they arrived at a fire scene. In 1990, Squad 41 was established in the former quarters of Engine 41 in the Bronx. They were assigned a pumper and they along with Squad 1 were part of Special Operations Command. in addition to engine company equipment, they carried truck company tools as well as Hurst Tools, Air Bags and some other rescue related gear. In the late 1990's Engine 18, 61, 252, 270 and 288 became Squad Companies and all squad personnel were trained to the Haz Mat and Rescue Technician level. All Squads were then assigned a second rig (step van) designated as Haz Mat Support Units.


  2. On 9/9/2017 at 7:14 AM, savff said:

    That is where our issue is. We didn't do enough testing prior to the purchase. We do use KEY hose but we bought the Eco-10 looking for a hose that was lightweight and folded well for attack line  and supply line as well. We run 3 man engines and we were trying to keep the weight down. The hose has been great with the exception of the kinking issues.  

    Key is a great company to deal with, they back their products 100%. If / when your budget allows, I highly recommend upgrading to Key Combat Ready Hose. In the interim, I recommend that you incorporate a stream shaper between the hose and the nozzle. Stay safe brother.


  3. 3 hours ago, savff said:

    We did with our first one and had no issues with it. We changed to FireAde 2000 due to a vendor change and significant price increase. We have 5 Husky 3's, a 2013 and (4) 2016s. We also have a Husky 12 that is a 2009. The 12 had some issues over the years so we tried the 3. The only negative I have about the 3 is it won't flow a large gpm of foam product. We have busy interstates 95 & 16 and are just outside the port of Savannah so we have a tremendous amount of truck traffic. We flow "foam" on any fire, our engines have 50 gallon tanks. The FireAde has been great and does wonders with reducing the amount of overhaul required and assists with fire suppression. Our 2 crosslays are 200' of 1.75" that is really 2 1/16". We will be swapping to the true 1.75" hose. We run a 15/16" smoothbore and a low psi combination nozzle on them and we have issues with kinking. 

     

    You should not have kinking issues using a low pressure nozzle if: you are using a good, high quality, kink resistant hose as well as incorporating a stream shaper between the nozzle and the hose. This is the best attack line available:  

    http://www.keyhose.com/images/pdf/combatready.pdf

     

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  4. FDNY vented with the tip of the aerial as a matter of routine. It proved to be quick and effective and did not cause undue wear and tear on the ladder. Fire trucks are tools, unfortunately many departments treat them as parade pieces at the expense of sub-par performance on the fire-ground. BTW, FDNY did not spec their sticks with gizmo's and buff paraphernalia mounted on the working end, so there was no chance of creating additional airborne debris. 

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  5. Civilian exposure to the audible warning devices of emergency vehicles is of very limited duration. These devices are only in use while the vehicle is en-route to an emergency, meaning the vehicle is moving. So, unless the complainers are keeping pace with and driving alongside the emergency vehicle with their window down rather than pulling to the right side of the road and stopping to allow the emergency vehicle to have the right of way, they are not being injured by the noise, just briefly inconvenienced by it.

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  6. After you watch "The Bronx Is Burning", check out some of this audio from July 4th, 1990 F.D.N.Y. style. Thank you to R1 SmokeEater for making these great memories available. I'll never stop missing this action, the job and the GREAT guys I worked with. Firefighting truly is "The greatest job on earth"... 

     

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  7. 27 minutes ago, nfd2004 said:

    Here is a documentary made in 1972 about Engine Co 82. It's about 50 minutes long so grab yourself a cool one or perhaps a cup of tea. This is how it was. And it wasn't just this one area of the Bronx either.

     

    Of course the Safety Officers will go "nuts" when they see this one. But these guys were the most experienced firefighters in the entire world. After most of 82s area was burned out, Bronx companies in the West Bronx started to increase their load dramatically, almost over night.

     

     So just sit back and watch. I'm sure you will be amazed if you haven't seen this before.

     

     www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygF3NJvy3bY (Sorry link is not working - but go to youtube and type in "The Bronx is Burning")

    Here ya go Brother, this link seems to be working:

     

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  8. On 8/2/2016 at 7:07 PM, AFS1970 said:

    My point exactly was that FDNY is not doing it with 5 rescues. Oddly enough for two reasons. First is, like I said, the fact that the trucks do much of the extrication, so they are really doing it with around 149 companies. This does not take into account the similar duties of NYPD ESU. Of course reason two, as others have said is that the FDNY rescue companies are not really the same thing as the similar looking trucks elsewhere due to duties and equipment.

     

     

    F.D.N.Y. operates five heavy rescue companies and seven squad companies. The Rescue Companies are assigned full sized, heavy rescue apparatus and each are supplemented by a Collapse Response rig which carries additional equipment needed for structural and trench collapse rescue. The seven squad companies are assigned rescue pumpers which carry some extrication and technical rescue equipment. Each squad company is assigned a second piece that carries some additional technical rescue equipment as well as the haz mat technician gear that is assigned to the squads. Every rescue and squad firefighter is trained to the same level (rescue technician, hazmat technician, etc.). Every ladder company is fully equipped to perform vehicle extrication (complete Hurst Tool package, reciprocating saws, air bags, cribbing, etc.). Accident Victim Extrication as well as FAST / RIT are basic firefighter skills. Every member of the F.D.N.Y. is trained to perform automobile extrication's and FAST / RIT (as should every firefighter in every department, career or volunteer). A rescue company is assigned to start out on confirmed pins at the scene of a vehicle accident in case it proves to be a prolonged or particularly complicated incident. Departments whose 'rescue' work is limited to non technical rescue situations can very easily equip ladder or pumper apparatus with the items necessary for basic auto extrication responses. A county technical rescue team could be strategically located and assigned the necessary equipment and apparatus for any rescue incidents requiring services that are not available at the local VFD level. The savings in each department would be substantial. Another area where tremendous savings can be realized is the strategic locating of aerial apparatus. Many volunteer departments are located very close together making it extreme overkill for each department to own and maintain one or more aerial and or tower ladders.  

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  9. FASNY paid an economic research and statistical analysis company to write a glowing report about the excellent services being provided by volunteer fire departments. It's questionable as to how they came up with the figures presented that represent the cost of replacing volunteer departments with career departments. The response time information for volunteer departments isn't specific (Are they referring to the time the 911 operator received the call until first unit *not a chief's car* arrives on the scene, or the time the first unit signs on the air responding until they arrive at the scene? Are they referring to response time for all calls, just fire calls, just non fire emergencies, just EMS?). The bottom line is people rely upon fire, rescue and EMS services to respond quickly, be properly staffed, trained and equipped. Seconds count, and it's far more likely for a 24 / 7 career department to be able to provide an appropriate response in an acceptable time frame than it is for  a department that relies upon volunteers who in most cases must respond from their home or their place of work, to the firehouse before they can gear up and respond with the necessary apparatus. I volunteered for 17 years and am very aware of how understaffed departments are during normal work hours from Monday to Friday and how difficult it is to get a sufficient number of personnel to get out of their beds in the middle of the night for a call when they must be up for work or school in a couple of hours. I worked alongside many dedicated, well trained volunteers during those years, but regardless of how dedicated they are, work, school and family have to come before being available to get trained (initially), maintain annual training requirements (courses and drills) as well as respond to calls. 


  10. 1 hour ago, spin_the_wheel said:

    Great point.  I hate to compare FDNY to any other organization as they are in a world to their own.  Especially when it is said "FDNY only has 5 rescues for the whole....."  I have always thought that a weak argument.  What are we exactly talking about?  The equipment and function of the rig or the rig itself?

     

    As babhits states volunteer rescue trucks are pretty much scene support units.  An FDNY heavy rescue has nothing in common with the average volunteer departments "heavy rescue" and should not be compared. 

     

    The average volunteer departments rescue rig carries the extrication tool and anything that can't be stored on the other rigs.  FDNY ladder companies do the bulk of the auto extrications unless the accident happens to be in one of the rescue companies first due areas.   So if we are talking about extrication tools are we to compare the number of ladder companies with extrication tools in NY City vs. the number of rescue trucks in Nassau or Suffolk?   Many volunteer departments have one extrication tool on a heavy rescue rig.  Are we saying that there are too many extrication tools in Nassau or Suffolk or Westchester etc....?

     

    If we are to argue for trimming certain departments fleets down looking at a rig that is for the most part a scene support unit might not be the rig to cut.  Maybe an Engine in some departments where one of three is always sitting in the station even during working fires.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Spending $500,000 to $1 million for a heavy rescue vehicle if all it does is carry an extrication tool and whatever non essential leftovers that don't fit on another rig is a senseless waste of tax dollars. Any full size pumper or aerial device can carry an extrication tool and cribbing. If a department reevaluates the left over stuff that's carried on their expensive rescue truck they may well find that much of it isn't needed and the rest is a duplication of items that are on other rigs or can be carried on the other rigs.

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